So AMERICAN disaster of 911 would be written as 11/9/2001 or 11th September,2011 or even September 11th,2001. "der zweite erste" - the second first - for 2 January). Official EU documents still tend to use DD.MM.YYYY but one document specifies the use of ISO 8601: "Dates should be formatted by the following format: YYYY-MM-DD.". Curiously Americans most often say Fourth of July rather than July Fourth – (as per this US Gov website http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Independence-Day.shtml) a date apparently of some signifance in the Colonies. At the top right hand of the page, click the gear icon left of the smiley face. Follow these directions to change your date format in Internet Explorer to dd/mm/yy: 1. We’re not weirdos too. It’s a not true about Belize though, it’s a British colony and write their date like the brits do. bollocks… Fred Flintstone logic! European Address Formats; Help and advice. You will know better than I do, but I think also, historically, there was some overlap between the US and European formats. Trying to spend all day converting one to the other will drive you bonkers. As for driving on which side of the road, remember, please blame Napoleon! “Over 1/2 of the US canât tell if a Celsius temperature is hot or cold.”. Interesting stuff about Napoleon and unification and I’m sure there was a time when some Canadian provinces drove on the left. I have been failed in my maths exam for substituting the one with the other. – November the 5th (Guy Fawkes Day) I recently bought Office Pro 2007, having previously had Office Pro 2003. The month is written in Roman numerals while the day is in Arabic numerals: 14.â VI.â1789 is 14 June 1789.”. 4/20/2020; 2 minutes to read; D; M; s; m; In this article Syntax Date.FromText(text as nullable text, optional culture as nullable text) as nullable date About. For example… if you keep a folder full of family photos.. prefix them with the date. I now write the month in English to avoid confusion. Bank downloads get frequently miscoded up to 12/12 (or rather 11 Dec and 12 Nov, since 12/12 always comes out right even when it’s in the wrong order). There are no other meaningful arguments why one way is better than another except maybe “I’m used to it and I’m too lazy to change my crappy ways”. As a European Norm, CEN and CENELEC member states are obligated to adopt the standard as national standard without alterations as well. My intuition would put the number at 3/4 *at least.*. Elected in sense of choosing, which they did do knowingly but I’m sure with no thought of date formats. 2012-09-04 is not ambiguous because there are no official standards that say YYYY-DD-MM. So many systems for one simple concept, right? As a Brit living in the US, it took me a while to get used to giving my birthdate in the US form. By default, Windows formats dates with slashes (3/23/16). I only use purely numerical formats when the reader is not North American. Thus, if you're currently in the US, 06-Aug-2019 will be put as 8/6/2019 in your sheet, while for the UK it'll be â¦ Just be forward thinking by writing the date the correct way in the first place! Since you’re an academic, Mr. Yagoda, I’m kind of surprised your entry on date formats fails to note that historians who write in English, regardless of nation, have been using the 12 April 2012 format for quite some time. The euro going from the smaller fraction to the larger (day, month, year) and the ISO formatted inversely (year, month, day) It makes it easier to sort and organize records. I’m glad to give an explanation but I’m sure that people will object! To me, the beauty of the European method is its progression of diminishing specificity with each increment of time: from day to month to year. My wife just went on a first aid course and was told it’s now 112…… I’ve just been reading through the above for the first time. ” In England, there is but one road to heaven. In Prussia there are many roads, Each man must find his own way.”. I believe it was from the same folks who thought it was a much better idea to drive on the left. JOHN – but we live in a world now. (And no, you can’t first go to Google to convert stone to kilos — tell me right now.). We SAY month-day (and if need be -year), thus we write mm-dd-yy or mm/dd/yy. Yes, the Fourth of July is celebrates 2 days after Congress voted in favour of Independence from Great Britain. 9 April 2012; April 9, 2012; 2012-09-04; and many other options are all unambiguous. In most Post-Soviet states DD.MM.YYYY format is used with dots as separators and with leading zeros. In the early 19th century, those countries occupied by or allied to Napoleon â the Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Italy, Poland, Spain â adopted right-hand traffic. The American sequence month/date/year is totally illogical. I gave up and adhere to the month/date/year style. The traditional all-numeric form of writing Gregorian dates in German is the little-endian day. But entirely logical once you get used to it. Change dates to US format using the Replace button. 2012-09-04 can ONLY mean the fourth of September, 2012. In 1995 this was changed to the colon in the interest of compatibility with ISO 8601. It is, in any case, getting more and more popular over here, as in this post from the web site Military.com: Ah, another holiday weekend approaches and Iâm getting tons of mail asking âWhen will we get paid?âÂ Â Folks, payday is Tuesday, 15 November 2011.Â Youâll get paid on Tuesday, or on Monday if your bank releases direct deposit pay funds early. â¦ January 1st; ask someone his birthday and he’ll say month-day-year. Putting the most significant digits on the left means that everything will sort correctly. 4/9/12 is ambiguous. Â£s, shillings and pence? The only downside would be that blog posts such as this couldn’t be written and enjoyed. A little later, Napoleon consolidated this position by ordering the military to stay on the right side, even when out of the country, so that everyone who met the French army had to concede the way. The usual EU compromise – standardisation across the EU, will supporting local history and cultures. European Committee for Electrotechnical Standardization, http://wwwu.hak-vk.at/sal/aenderungen_2007.doc, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Date_and_time_notation_in_Europe&oldid=986156857, Articles with unsourced statements from May 2017, Articles with unsourced statements from September 2017, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, âzwei Uhr/zwei/um zweiâ (two oâclock), âviertel nach zweiâ (quarter past two), âzwanzig nach zweiâ (twenty past two) / âzehn vor halb dreiâ (ten to half three), âfÃ¼nf vor halb dreiâ (five to half three), âfÃ¼nf nach halb dreiâ (five past half three), âzwanzig vor dreiâ (twenty to three) / âzehn nach halb dreiâ (ten past half three), âviertel vor/auf dreiâ (quarter to three), "drei Uhr/drei/um drei" (three oâclock), This page was last edited on 30 October 2020, at 03:52. I’ve preferred the European date format since I was an impressionable pre-teen. We tend to think (as in most things) that we are doing it the “normal” way, but, Europe Blog notes, “The only countries that do not share the European date format in fact are the US, Philippines, Palau, the Federated States of Micronesia, Canada and Belize.”, (Interestingly, the blog goes on, the European Union and other international organizations do not use the European style but rather the “‘ISO 8601â standard date format. Others write 2016, June 25 or 2016.06.25 either of which is substantially easier to organize a group of records because everything is in order. Fulltext search . The number of commas in an Indian balance sheet can drive you mad! I assumed (and I’m sure most people in Europe did as well) that “9/11” was purely a reference to the date? today is 20 IV ’12. ( Log Out / Because this is 2016 and everything is computerized now. There are so many things that our conservative party refuses to consider to change. I assume you’re being ironic in talking about anyone “electing” (or choosing) 11/11 as Remembrance Day?? But when giving the date in full, you can just as easily say July 4th 2012 as 4th July 2012, without its sounding in the slightest unnatural or affected. If you want to switch to a different regional or national date format (European or a specific European country, for example), you need to change your region in Control Panel. The twit wrote the American date format.”. The travel industry is the same way everything is day first then month then year. German grammar rules do not allow for leading zeros in dates at all, and there should always be a space after a dot. Your examples don’t really show anything. what about the system which uses Roman numerals for the month? And Americans are not about to switch to the metric system or drive on the other side of the road. Working with European Date Format in Microsoft Word YYYY format is used with dots as separators and with leading zeros. I frequently use up so much of my attention on the month-day/day-month puzzle that I have none left for writing the correct year. Week numbers are prominently printed in calendars and are widely used in the business world. In other words a presentation that will ensure immediate comprehension? So check your data against the original when you're done. And now let’s discuss metric vs imperial and why the Brits drive on the wrong side of the road…. â¦ December 25th (12/25); New Year’s Day? When I write a check, that is how I place the date. There was even a letter this week to our local rag bemoaning the lack of anything formal…which there is and I believe its the ISO standard yyyy-mm-dd. Thank you. Of course, I also add the Hebrew date b/c that’s the way I roll. Countries used to be ‘the world’ – now not so. Don’t even get me started on the illogic of writing writing a comma to between a whole number and a decimal (or a period/full stop between thousands). When Napoleon took over he stopped that and unified France. South Africa’s also the only English-speaking country I’ve been to that uses the decimal comma instead of the decimal point. In America, we do not ever properly say “July 4th, 2017.” The correct usage in our system is “July 4, 2017.” The “th” is reserved for adjectival treatment: “The 4th of July.”. Regardless of the fact, that AM/PM is also not my case (24-hour clock rocks) – if it’s 2:35:12 on your watch you don’t write 35:12, 2! When is Christmas? Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Before the Revolution in France, in different Departements, people used to drive on different sides of the road. KW" or "Wir erwarten die Lieferung in KW 49". Mainland China invariably writes 2016/01/06 since the past 60 years. *EUR => DD.MM.CCYY For example, a news presenter will refer to the “July 7th” bombings, not the “7th of July” or “7th July” bombings. As a mathematician, I presonally prefer to write dates like other numbers, i.e., using the ISO ordering cited. The American format did not cause as much confusion as the date was usually written out in full. But also remember that, thanks to India and other former colonies, as many people drive on the left as well as on the right. RELATED: How to Use Periods in Dates in Excel This filter no longer works in Excel 2007 as it expects to find the date in mm/dd/yyyy format. Save those keystrokes, and use them, if you do save, at the end of life to explain yourself, without typing. In Britain we tend to say the 25th of December. “As for driving on which side of the road, remember, please blame Napoleon!”. A friend cleared it up for me by mentioning the OTHER way of writing dates. In Excel I have a series of filters, one of which uses a date in dd/mm/yyyy format. I’m nearly 60 now. I know this is irrelevant but it felt really relevant. I have seen this on many paintings/drawings in museums, and here’s a passage from the Roman numeral entry in wikipedia, “In Central Europe, Italy, Russia, and in Bulgarian, Croatian, Portuguese, Romanian, and Serbian languages, mixed Roman and Arabic numerals are used to record dates (usually on tombstones, but also elsewhere, such as in formal letters and official documents). – September the 11th. US date format versus European format. Excel VBA Format Date. For left driving UK I’ve heard/read (can’t cite) that if riding a horse and meeting another rider it was good to pass on the left of each other….so in case of attack/need for protection, one’s sword hand was closest to the passerby/antagonist….assuming right handed of course. But every ambiguous date format is to be avoided in all contexts. Note that these phrases are exclusive to the 12-hour clock, just as the "(hour) Uhr (minutes)" format is exclusive to the 24-hour clock. Open a new Internet Explorer browser. I suspect it’s the influence of the Department of Defense. of Califorâ¦. Here the organisation is closer to the US dating but with the year placed at the start, for example â2010/12/20â.”). True, American historians attempting to appeal to the masses may revert to April 12, 2012, but those writing for scholarly journals will not. Given that >90% of pre-1900 sword-armed road travellers were right-handed, they passed to the left of each other. Unfortunately, he got the year wrong (it was 2011). If you are working in an international coordinate company, you may suffer with the problem that convert Euro date format to US date format. I will grant you though that the American style is only 1/2 logical. Also, there are many explanations for this. Caesar? patient would say how big is that and dr would point to the reference. Frederick the Great’s comments on the Church of England apply an all cases. Sorry but a few countries write in neither month-day-year nor day-month-year. The ISO standard uses hyphens, not slashes, to separate yyyy-mm-dd. In UK the date is consistently written DD MM YYYY, sometimes with a comma after the day, but spoken it is often reversed with “the” in the middle, thus July the seventh; More commonly it is known as 7/7 – and is then of course consistent with either convention – to associate with 9/11. It is common to hear people say, for example, "I'm still free in week 36" or to have a company write "We expect delivery in week 49". The UK, Ireland, Malta, and Cyprus are the only holdouts left in Europe driving on the left side of the road. The default date â¦ The locale is what presets your Google Sheets date format based on your region. I weight 82kg and I am 1.78m tall. so 25jun16. The traditional all-numeric form of writing Gregorian dates in German is the little-endian day.month.year order, using a dot on the line (period or full stop) as the separator (e.g., "31.12.1991" or "15.4.74"). And I am the only one in our family whose birthdate can be misconstrued – the others are lucky enough to be past 12 in the month. I don’t understand why 4/9/12 is ambiguous but 2012-09-04 isn’t. The date will now appear in the dd/mm/yy format within your FMX site! In the UK the emergency telephone number is 999 or so I thought. Although the ISO standard specifies dash rather than slash as the separator. I think the European form is elegant, and I don’t get any pleasure out of being in an exclusive club with Belize. I’ve seen yyyyy-mm-dd used in in South Africa – the stamps in my passport were in that format. yep or longhand as 25 June, 2016, organized from smallest unit to largest unit. Believe me they often email me many months in advance! ), If it’s so logical to PROceed from the smallest to the largest unit, why not also say and write the time in seconds/minutes/hours? Also: the 12 April 2012 format is routinely used by American genealogists when they write; I know because my sister happens to be one. I won’t comment on the Napoleonic origin. In Germany, it is not uncommon in casual speech to use numbers to refer to months, rather than their names (e.g. âMeet Me in St. Louisâ in âThe Family Stoneâ: a case of emotional larceny. I’m so paranoid about forgetting to renew the couple of domain names I care about that I’ve authorized my provider to bill my credit card automatically when they’re due to renew. Get it right! I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. STEP 2: Scroll to the very bottom, and select Change date and time formats. In the UK, anyone who reaches 100 years old gets a telegram from the queen. That’s a larf! Convert between US and European date formats in Excel Dirk Excel February 27, 2015 October 14, 2015 1 Minute The easiest way I know of (please let me know if you know a better way) to convert between US (âmm/dd/yyâ) and European (âdd/mm/yyâ) dates without using VBA in Excel is via âText to Columnsâ. Thus, as long as the sequence is based on the relative values, be it date/month/year or year/month/date, it’s cool. We had a unified system of weights, measurement and distance. There is no usage in which this could mean the ninth of April, 2012. National standard format is yyyy-mm-dd. On some radio stations, announcers regularly give the current time on both forms, as in "Es ist jetzt vierzehn Uhr einundfÃ¼nfzig; neun Minuten vor drei" ("It is now fourteen fifty-one; nine minutes to three"). We could all be speaking Esperanto, too. As such, the ISO 8601 is: 1. Not so re cooking or spelling or grammar, they’re flexible, ditto which side of the road a country opts to drive on. There is an order: some days are a month, some months are a year. Years could be written with two or four digits; the century was sometimes seen being replaced by an apostrophe: "31.12. Gunpowder treason and plot. There is only one correct way to write a date, year then month then day. How do you alphabetize things? This natural order (not the European one) is used in China and Japan. The Modern Language Association (MLA) format for academic writing in the humanities specifies that dates be given as day month year; today would be 20 September 2014. Dates are critical info and it IS confusing when they’re illogical, and used on key documents that cross borders. So today would be written as 2012.04.10. Even if I manually key in the date 06/02/2019 it's automatically change to 02/06/2019 again. Change it to M/dd/yy which is the US Date Format. What point are you trying to make, Rizzo? WHAT has religion to do with dates?! The expanded form of the date (e.g., "31. Dezember 1991") continues to use the little-endian order and the ordinal-number dot for the day of the month. The European, Asian, and American date orders are all internally consistent and therefore both equally logical and equally arbitrary. Sorry. In German-speaking Switzerland, only the 12-hour clock is used in everyday speech. Our customer has MS project 2007 version, hence I tried to save the plan in project 2013 as 2007 file. In 1995, also in Germany, the traditional notation was replaced in the DIN 5008 standard, which defines common typographic conventions, with the ISO 8601 notation (e.g., "1991-12-31"), and becoming the prescribed date format in Germany since 1996-05-01. If you write YYYY-MM-DD, that’s ok and ISO standard… Dates and now side of the road? Quebec does that but two recent items from Feds have used (eg) oct 26, 2012. Another important thing to keep in mind is your spreadsheet locale. You need to go into the device's Settings app and set (or reset) the localization region format. In VBA Format Date function you have the option to either define your own format or use some of the MS Excel predefined format. Everything ends up in a computer eventually! I’ve just read this extraordinarily rude and ill-mannered reply. Then, however, I discovered that on the back of the document someone wrote …, “Original Declaration of Independence So there you have it: one document, one country, two different date notations. Huh? Weekday names are commonly (and according to DIN 1355) abbreviated with two letters (Mo, Di, Mi, Do, Fr, Sa, So), whereas month names are abbreviated (if at all) with three letters (Jan, Feb, Mrz, Apr, Mai, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Okt, Nov, Dez). Also: doesn’t your American domain hosting operation email you when it’s getting time to renew? South Korea, Japan, and China are those countries, they write year-month-day. Just realised I read sword hand origin HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you have an enquiry or are looking for some information then please type a question or keyword(s) into the box provided, and we will return a list of articles to help you. The same way of giving the time is used also in Slovenia (of course using Slovenian language) perhaps as the remnant of the old Austro-Hungarian times. This is probably counterintuitive to many Westerners, yet no one has ever accused the English language of being intuitive or easy to follow. Before posting and after some research to answer my own question, I deleted my second paragraph, but WordPress posted it anyway. I want to be able to sort this column by date, and thought I could reformat the entries using the "format cells" function to show them in a â¦ Just as with the date format, leading zeros appear to be less commonly used in Germany than in Austria and Switzerland although the Austrian Standard ÃNORM recommends the zero for table-form dates only â such as Abfahrt 08:30 Uhr â and not for running text.. Some users have restored their devices and found the dates have changed back to the American Date format. As with many things, Canada goes with the flow. In the United Kingdom and, in fact, most of the rest of the world, today’s date would be indicated 9 April 2012 or 9/4/12. I have looked at the main UK dailies and they seem pretty evenly split on their usage (as they are, incidentally, on -ise/-ize: I always use -ize). We’re talking about a language in which the vowels of the virtually identical words dough, slough, and tough are all pronounced differently. How can some NOOB contributors be so dumb? I used to fly to America a lot. Every time I did I had to fill in a Green Card. Obvious: two horsemen approach on a road, equally suspicious of each other. One always relates to the next full hour, in other words, it names the fraction of the currently passing hour.
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